00:04.34
Andy Young
Yeah, welcome back to the 825 Technologies podcast. I’m Andy, founder and CEO of 825 Technologies. Joining me as always is our resident tech wizard, Tim.
00:16.37
Andy Young
How’s it going?
00:17.54
Tim
Hey Andy, I’m doing great. Ready to dig into the sweet tech headlines and as always, help our listeners make sense of what’s changing in the world of
00:26.28
Andy Young
Absolutely. And It’s a packed show actually. So some game changing moves. We got some new stuff from Starlink. Google’s got this new smart home push.
00:38.10
Andy Young
Robo taxis, right? These autonomous cars, robo taxis. They’ve got a unique plan coming up that we’re going to cover. We’re going to talk about browser monopolies with Google Chrome.
00:48.92
Andy Young
And then think we’re going to end on a battery breakthrough that could change EVs forever. Plus, we’re going to about A25 technologies, right? That’s what we do.
00:59.70
Andy Young
And Sheet Dog Design Studio and Bunker how those entities can help your businesses. So let’s kick things off. Starlink. Do you have Starlink?
01:11.41
Tim
I do not.
01:12.36
Andy Young
Me neither. You know, mine’s because I don’t like Elon Musk, but I guess at some point, you know, you’re not going to like every liter of every product you use, but that’s a whole other discussion.
01:25.03
Tim
True.
01:28.78
Andy Young
I’m sure there’s a lot of people that don’t like Elon Musk right now.
01:31.91
Tim
I probably agree that.
01:33.99
Andy Young
Yes, but one big move that they’ve made is for their residential program. Now, if you prepay 12 months, you get their internet,
01:45.27
Andy Young
satellite kit for free. So it’s a a about $349.
01:48.65
Tim
Hmm.
01:53.17
Andy Young
There’s a few of them actually, right? I think, right? So do you know the… You’ve got the catches. Tell us the catches.
02:00.31
Tim
That’s right. right. ah This deal is only available in selected areas. You have to sign up for year either at $120 a month for full speed or $80 for a light plan.
02:12.40
Tim
If you cancel early or change your address, you could get hit with a fee for the hardware. And there’s even a $100 demand super surge charge in some high traffic markets.
02:23.53
Tim
Oh boy.
02:24.61
Andy Young
Yes. I mean, quick pause on show notes. Why would it matter if you moved your address, right? It’s Starlink.
02:35.32
Andy Young
It should work anywhere, but whatever.
02:37.62
Tim
What happens to move one over? What else?
02:42.46
Andy Young
I wouldn’t report it. I would just be like, no, we’re in the same place.
02:45.47
Tim
Nope.
02:45.99
Andy Young
We’re good.
02:47.69
Tim
Sorry, your satellite has moved like a little bit to the left. Sorry.
02:50.64
Andy Young
Yeah. We’re fine. We’re fine. No, I think in some ways though, business wise, Starlink, SpaceX, they’re making a smart choice because you’ve got Amazon rolling up project Kuper, Kuper, Kuper, K-U-I-P-E-R.
03:02.94
Tim
Cooper.
03:05.71
Tim
Cooper. Oh,
03:07.49
Andy Young
Yeah, you know, it should be Cooper, but why didn’t they spell it like C-O-O-P-E-R?
03:12.11
Tim
no. Well, unique.
03:13.20
Andy Young
I don’t know, man.
03:16.21
Tim
Unique words.
03:18.06
Andy Young
Unique, spelled Y-O-U-N-I-U-E.
03:20.03
Tim
Right.
03:21.59
Andy Young
Yeah. All right. So I think that you’ve got Starlink reaching out to consumers, lowering the barrier of entry and saying, hey, get on to Starlink for a year, right?
03:36.01
Andy Young
So then in a way they’re shrinking the the demand Amazon might be seeing in the market. So who knows?
03:45.29
Tim
Might
03:45.29
Andy Young
I think, yeah, say you’ve got a business that’s in the rural area or, you know, you’re just in rural America and you need satellite service. It could be a game changer.
03:56.20
Tim
be your only choice.
03:57.76
Andy Young
Yeah. yeah yeah So who knows?
04:00.74
Tim
And if you’re thinking about IT project or managed service, A25 Technologies can help you integrate your Starlink or other connectivity solutions in your business network.
04:11.86
Tim
Just reach out to us.
04:13.45
Andy Young
Right. We’ve done a couple quotes and setups and stuff and onward and upward. I’m sure we’ll see a lot more of them.
04:20.00
Tim
Right.
04:20.36
Andy Young
Yeah. You know, for businesses, though, you don’t get the free kit. I was researching that more and I was like, that’s a bummer.
04:25.26
Tim
Oh, then.
04:26.61
Andy Young
Only residential plans.
04:28.80
Tim
Can you put your business as a resident?
04:28.93
Andy Young
So. Sure. Sure. Yeah.
04:33.26
Tim
Just so you moved your house.
04:35.18
Andy Young
Right. Right.
04:38.67
Andy Young
Oh, man. Well, speaking of houses next up. Google has rolled out a whole new home panel for Google TV and Chromecast. I use it in my house. Do you, Tim, do you guys use any Chromecast or Google TVs?
04:54.01
Tim
Unfortunately, I do not.
04:55.14
Andy Young
No, no. Well, yeah mean, it’s, it’s a mixed bag. So what they’ve done is now when you are using your Chromecast or your Google TV, You can control your smart home devices like your lights or thermostat.
05:10.48
Andy Young
You can pull up security cameras while you’re watching shows. And if somebody rings your doorbell, it pops up on your screen of who’s at your doorbell. So kind of nice. You can do it all from your remote, which is useful.
05:24.21
Tim
That’s nice.
05:24.94
Andy Young
Yeah. And, you know, Nest Doorbell is the doorbell that works with it, which, you know, if and are upset. I don’t know if noticed Nest just said that they’re going to discontinue their generation one and two thermostats.
05:35.96
Tim
Oh, boy.
05:36.05
Andy Young
So if you, yeah.
05:36.84
Tim
Ta-da!
05:37.41
Andy Young
So if you’ve got an early Nest, they’re like, you’ll be fine.
05:41.04
Tim
Goodbye.
05:42.54
Andy Young
Yeah.
05:44.46
Tim
Thanks, Ness. Appreciate it.
05:46.32
Andy Young
So.
05:48.75
Tim
I mean, all that, that’s a huge convenience boost. Imagine tweaking your lights or checking your security view while leaving the couch.
05:56.86
Andy Young
I know.
05:58.08
Tim
Google’s pushing this feature to more devices, including the TCL and Xenia TVs.
06:05.44
Andy Young
Yes.
06:06.05
Tim
So it’s not for Chromecast users anymore.
06:06.01
Andy Young
Yeah.
06:08.97
Andy Young
Yeah. So, I mean, that’s cool. I think, uh, Google sees an opportunity here my opinion. So they had that lawsuit with Sonos not too long ago where, yeah, when you’re using their speaker grouping on Google Chromecast, it was too similar to Sonos’s methodologies and it infringed on their patents.
06:21.51
Tim
Oh, did see that.
06:32.65
Andy Young
Sonos sued them. The judge, you know, said that Sonos was right and that Google had to cease and desist the way that they were doing that.
06:40.92
Andy Young
So I think then as a result, you know, Sonos got a new CEO. Things kind of have gone sideways there. They’ve had some mobile app issues. I think Google’s like, hey, this is a great chance.
06:54.45
Andy Young
Let’s build this out more. Let’s put more into this infrastructure and maybe we buy Sonos.
07:00.02
Tim
Yeah.
07:01.00
Andy Young
So don’t
07:02.21
Tim
Do it.
07:03.82
Andy Young
I don’t know, man. I think if you’re looking to integrate smart home tech into your office or home, you know, that’s something that we can help with, whether it’s through smart displays and stuff like in Sheepdog Design Studio, we do a lot of that.
07:20.09
Andy Young
Or if it’s just the actual hard door access control, things like that, you 825 Technologies has been rolling that out for some years.
07:29.22
Andy Young
So, yeah. So, you know, Get that smart and enabled business. Start hanging out on your couch and doing more while you do less.
07:33.93
Tim
Get on it.
07:41.17
Tim
Don’t move.
07:42.38
Andy Young
Yeah, right? like like It reminds me of Wall-E.
07:47.65
Tim
Oh, yeah.
07:47.84
Andy Young
The further down we go the road of technology, the more I feel like we are Wall-E and just like a decade away. So I don’t know. It makes me want to get out in nature more, which is good.
08:00.96
Tim
I want of those chairs just to like go somewhere and just like, no, just hit the move.
08:03.59
Andy Young
That’s good.
08:04.92
Tim
Oh,
08:05.60
Andy Young
I was thinking of just putting on my fishing waders and grabbing my fishing pole and going fishing, but you know, a chair and nature in bed.
08:10.75
Tim
that’s true too. You can
08:11.98
Andy Young
Yeah, nature and nature in bed either. That’s a good deal.
08:14.80
Tim
that.
08:16.00
Andy Young
So, well, here’s down the line here a little bit further. Kind of cool. Are you familiar with Waymo?
08:22.71
Tim
I have heard
08:23.77
Andy Young
All right. So they’re growing. They had them. I was just down in Austin. They had them in Austin and they’re
08:30.33
Tim
Ooh.
08:30.75
Andy Young
kind of cool. I didn’t, uh, I didn’t know.
08:32.67
Tim
You didn’t take one? No? Okay.
08:34.89
Andy Young
was with the fam and I was like, you know, I don’t know. i just didn’t feel like it was the time, the place, you know, our luck, we would have got locked in the car or some glitch would have happened.
08:45.24
Tim
No.
08:48.21
Tim
Or a turn of the wrong street or something. Get hit one way.
08:51.25
Andy Young
Then we would have been lost in Austin.
08:51.40
Tim
Okay.
08:53.08
Andy Young
would have use Google maps to be like, where am so, ah you know, let, let, It’s kind of a cool headline. Waymo, who ironically is owned by Google, their alphabet parent corporation owns Waymo.
09:07.93
Andy Young
They’re considering selling their robo taxis directly to individuals and not just operating it as a ride hailing service.
09:17.70
Tim
Oh, that’s wild. Imagine on your own robo taxi, using it for your daily commute, then sending it out to earn money as a ride share when you’re not using it.
09:28.08
Andy Young
Yes.
09:28.22
Tim
Wow. It can be a powerful side hustle, especially if you’re off for subscriptions to families or even set up a camera feed for parents to monitor their kids’ rides. Ooh, I like that.
09:38.44
Tim
It’s great.
09:38.85
Andy Young
That’s a good idea. Yeah, like, you know, they’re just going down the street to the park, know, maybe two miles away.
09:40.14
Tim
Yeah.
09:44.08
Andy Young
But you’re like, I’ve got to finish dinner. Take the Waymo.
09:50.10
Tim
ah
09:51.88
Andy Young
That’s a good idea.
09:52.05
Tim
I can see ups and Like, who’s driving?
09:54.40
Andy Young
Yes.
09:55.29
Tim
know.
09:55.84
Andy Young
No one. Waymo. Waymo’s driving. That’s the beauty of it. So I think that there’s some real benefit here. You’d have to like save up money to buy another car. I’m sure there’d be different insurance on a car like that.
10:08.95
Tim
Right.
10:09.70
Andy Young
Yeah. And I mean, is in car insurance and wants to get on the podcast and talk to us about what this could look like on the insurance side, hit us up.
10:11.59
Tim
we Waymo, Waymo Insurance.
10:25.38
Andy Young
I’d be that would be a fun, fun guest on the show.
10:25.73
Tim
That’s right.
10:28.47
Tim
Probably Texas, I’m sure. Mm-hmm.
10:31.97
Andy Young
Or a lawyer that specializes in self-driving car law.
10:37.18
Andy Young
This is what’s funny about technology and advancement. Everybody thinks, oh, it’s going to be less jobs. And some things like AI could result in less jobs, but often it creates whole new markets.
10:51.23
Andy Young
And you just have to be able to change and adapt. and And remember that for centuries, humans have been doing that. Whether it’s, oh, we have to move to a new area of the country because the hunting in this area is dried up or there’s a drought.
11:05.53
Andy Young
So yeah, we got to go over the equivalent of 15 counties to get to a a better farmland that’s fertile.
11:13.63
Tim
Waymo will get you there.
11:16.70
Andy Young
Only those pioneers on the Oregon Trail have a way mow.
11:23.72
Andy Young
Yeah, no, that’s…
11:24.47
Tim
you don’t die from something from
11:26.09
Andy Young
Wow. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, extra insurance. I think that you even have to look at cybersecurity on those.
11:35.68
Andy Young
Apple just released, this is funny. If you’re using Apple CarPlay, when that’s activated, you can hack nearby AirPlay devices in people’s homes.
11:47.69
Tim
Oh, okay. That’s…
11:49.76
Andy Young
Yeah, because of something with the code how it’s written to integrate in what it opens up in the Apple ecosystem. It makes these susceptible devices in your home.
12:01.22
Tim
Let’s just drive by in the neighborhoods, just go to each house, take over.
12:04.63
Andy Young
Yeah.
12:05.01
Tim
It
12:05.28
Andy Young
And I you think how many devices and sensors are on a Waymo car and how likely it could be to not only do radio interference hacks and like, you denial service basically, other things.
12:15.43
Tim
like when it had to get the Wi-Fi like WPA, all for people really knew how to use it and stuff is like, oh, open networks.
12:22.99
Andy Young
Yeah. Yeah. I bet this password is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0. Oh, look at that. It is. Yeah. Okay.
12:30.87
Tim
Oh.
12:31.82
Andy Young
Good times. It’s really good times. There was a new password crack chart released, by the way. We might cover it in our next one, but you can run 125090s together and use it as a password crack rig.
12:48.66
Andy Young
And it’s pretty powerful. So if you’re using a password of up to 10 or wait, 12, 10 to 12. I don’t remember exactly. And it’s just numbers almost instant.
13:01.88
Tim
Oh boy.
13:05.06
Andy Young
Two minutes to find your password.
13:05.18
Tim
Okay, listeners, please don’t use numbers.
13:07.72
Andy Young
Yeah. Yeah. Basically if your password’s less than six characters or less, it doesn’t matter it has complex characters or anything. It’s almost instantly it can discover it now.
13:17.42
Tim
that’s not fun.
13:18.85
Andy Young
No, no. I mean that,
13:19.63
Tim
No. Hmm.
13:20.65
Andy Young
That’s fast. So 12 is still the magic number. Get to 12 characters in your passwords. And you other wonderful gems like that, we also can teach you and your staff through Bunker cybersecurity.
13:31.89
Andy Young
So cybersecurity, VCIO services, coaching, all of that to help you manage the risk.
13:33.08
Tim
right
13:37.33
Andy Young
And this new era of mobility and beastly powerful hardware, it’s just insanely fast. seconds mere seconds your password’s toast so yeah what’s the shortest password you have tim just just
13:54.80
Tim
Oh, well, if it’s like my like iPhone or something, yeah, that would that probably Yeah, because you got your six digit number.
14:03.80
Andy Young
Yeah. So I have stuff internally. I’m going to get myself in trouble here for like different media networks and stuff in my house to view like, I don’t know, pictures and things.
14:17.00
Andy Young
Those are really, really short passwords. They might have four passwords, like a username and a four character password. But you really have to be pretty vetted to have the credentials to get on that network inside the house.
14:31.65
Tim
Right.
14:32.18
Andy Young
My poor kids, every time there’s an update, it like kicks them out and they’re like, hey, dad, can you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on over here. So, you know, think there’s an innate security by complexity there, but still there’s some, I have some short passwords too.
14:49.86
Andy Young
I’m guilty.
14:50.16
Tim
You kind of have to for some of things. things. Yeah, that’s true. Yeah.
14:53.07
Andy Young
Yeah, some things, so. All right. Well, let’s make a little move to something very exciting, and that’s the courtroom. Who doesn’t get excited going into a courtroom?
15:05.07
Tim
uh yay
15:06.35
Andy Young
don’t know that’s excitement or anxiety. One of the two, right?
15:08.35
Tim
that’s true
15:10.63
Andy Young
Cousins. They’re cousins. So during the latest Justice Department’s antitrust case against Google, one of the Google Chrome executives, like the bosses, testified that only Google can run Chrome,
15:25.21
Andy Young
And that’s because of the deep integration with Google’s infrastructure like safe browsing and password alerts.
15:31.60
Tim
Wow. That’s a classic monopoly move. If Chrome is so tightly tied to Google’s backend, then no one else can operate it.
15:35.60
Andy Young
Yes.
15:39.58
Tim
It raises big questions about competition and future of the web. If a browser like Chrome were forced to be sold off or even shut down, it would hurt the open web or accelerate new innovations.
15:53.82
Andy Young
Yeah, which, I mean, monopolies can stifle progress.
15:55.13
Tim
Mm-hmm.
16:00.47
Andy Young
But sometimes breaking them apart can spark new ideas, you know? for businesses, I guess it’s a good reminder not to put all your eggs in one basket.
16:05.78
Tim
I got
16:11.87
Andy Young
Or especially one tech basket. Yeah.
16:16.77
Andy Young
yeah So, uh, Yeah. I mean, that we try to offer a lot of different through 825 technologies. we We try to be vendor agnostic. So we’re not like, oh, we’re a Microsoft 365 house or anything like that. So many main service providers are because so much is packaged in and helps with their security stack and software stack and all that. But it’s little more work on our end, but that’s okay. I think it’s worth it.
16:43.32
Andy Young
So, You for years, I think Tim have used Firefox, right?
16:49.82
Tim
yes I am might move soon or something I’m gonna see don’t know
16:49.94
Andy Young
Are you, are you still a Firefox?
17:00.04
Andy Young
You know, I’ve recently been on the ARC browser train.
17:05.92
Andy Young
I like it. I like it.
17:08.04
Tim
yeah
17:08.60
Andy Young
Yeah. Yeah. I think. Here’s what’s really interesting to me about Chrome is it opened everybody’s eyes to Chromium, which is kind of the Linux base of Chrome where it all started.
17:20.91
Andy Young
And so Arc browser runs on Chromium backend. The Microsoft Edge browser runs on a Chromium backend.
17:31.12
Andy Young
And so now all of these extensions and plugins that were developed for Google Chrome can be used in all these other browsers.
17:38.80
Tim
That’s nice.
17:38.81
Andy Young
So,
17:40.20
Andy Young
Does that still happen if there is no Google Chrome?
17:44.26
Tim
Ooh.
17:46.65
Andy Young
Yeah, I don’t know. I know there’s people that wanted to buy Google Chrome, like OpenAI was one of them. don’t know they still want to or not.
17:53.44
Tim
want to let me get my billions out take a check yeah throw in the money
17:54.52
Andy Young
Interesting.
17:57.84
Andy Young
Yeah.
18:04.06
Andy Young
You know the US used to have a $1,000 bill with Grover Cleveland?
18:07.69
Tim
i do remember that i did see do you take pennies
18:07.71
Andy Young
All right. Yeah, i’m like, man, why don’t we bring that back? That could buy us.
18:13.62
Andy Young
Yeah, that, that, why do we have pennies, but not a thousand? So, yeah, I mean, you go to buy eggs now, it’s like, you get two dozen for a thousand dollars.
18:24.67
Tim
He wants my eggs. Oh, wait, I think rid of pennies. Never mind.
18:29.77
Andy Young
Are they getting rid of them finally?
18:31.35
Tim
Yeah, I remember something about in news Trump saying something about the camera pennies. I’m like, yeah, that’s…
18:36.91
Andy Young
man.
18:39.76
Andy Young
Who knows? Who knows?
18:40.65
Tim
I’m shortchangeable. I will we have any pennies. Here’s the dice.
18:43.66
Andy Young
It is such a holy mess going on over there right now. Yesterday, Pete Hegseth ended a program. Was it called Women, Freedom and Peace something for the Department of Defense?
18:53.24
Tim
You
18:55.43
Andy Young
And he was like, it’s a divisive social justice powered initiative that needs to go. The irony of that is it was signed into, and when he blamed it on Biden, but it was signed into law by Trump in 2017.
19:10.66
Andy Young
And the people that pushed it through Congress were Kristi Noem and Marco Rubio. And so you’re like, wait a minute, guys.
19:17.05
Tim
guys are not the same page.
19:21.99
Andy Young
What? Yeah. It’s just a hot mess over there.
19:25.73
Tim
Cattle. Cows? Cattle.
19:26.71
Andy Young
mean, I think somebody went into Washington, D.C. and changed all of the road signs and just was like, good luck getting to work, everybody.
19:34.56
Tim
Cows?
19:36.28
Andy Young
Yeah, who knows? All right. Well, hey, our last story of the day, it’s a jaw dropper. C-A-T-L… It’s a Chinese company.
19:45.63
Andy Young
So I don’t know if it’s meant to be pronounced cattle or C-A-T-L.
19:49.77
Tim
cow
19:51.67
Andy Young
Yeah. Or cat L.
19:55.10
Andy Young
So they make the most, they’re the world’s largest battery producers for EVs. And they’ve unveiled a battery that can charge for 323 mile range in just five minutes.
20:09.52
Tim
Wow.
20:10.78
Andy Young
Yes. It’s faster than anything on the road right now.
20:14.70
Tim
Man, that’s a huge leap, Andy. But here’s the catch. The U.S. tariffs and trade tensions mean we might not see this tech here anytime soon. Meanwhile, American tech talent is scooped up by companies overseas and other countries are capitalizing on innovations that started here.
20:33.65
Andy Young
Exactly.
20:35.01
Tim
Oh boy.
20:35.06
Andy Young
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there has been mass exodus of people not getting green cards renewed or that are basically getting all of their funding pulled for any research they’re doing right now.
20:47.05
Andy Young
And as the U.S. tries to retool its manufacturing and supply chain, really, the U.S.A. risks losing our edge, I think, if we keep exporting our best minds.
21:00.33
Tim
Right.
21:00.49
Andy Young
And I think it’s a wake up call for businesses to invest in local talent invest in local innovation. And i might be unpopular for saying this, but I do think it’s time for our policymakers to get back to creating an environment where our thinkers want to stay here, where, you know, free thought is applauded and not like deported.
21:26.30
Andy Young
Yeah. But that, you know, that’s my thought.
21:28.76
Tim
right and if you’re looking for future proof of your business whether it’s IT infrastructure compliance or cyber security 825 technologies cheap dog design studio or bunker cyber security can help you stay ahead the curtain so
21:44.15
Andy Young
Yes. Yes. And, you know, the good news we help any company. and We’re we’re not prejudiced towards certain things.
21:49.11
Tim
that’s right
21:54.06
Andy Young
So, hey, if you need help.
21:55.74
Tim
If you need help getting there, mow’s the way.
21:59.20
Andy Young
That’s right. Wouldn’t that be cool if we had an 825 Technologies Waymo RoboTaxi?
22:04.85
Tim
cool. Mm-hmm.
22:05.99
Andy Young
Yeah. Yeah, that could be a nightmare.
22:09.87
Tim
Still got figure out the insurance part, though.
22:12.55
Andy Young
Well, and what do you do if somebody pukes in it?
22:16.79
Tim
you You don’t know it comes back. Yeah.
22:20.03
Andy Young
Who cleans that up? Like, I don’t want to clean up somebody else’s puke.
22:23.61
Tim
Right.
22:23.83
Andy Young
Yeah.
22:25.13
Tim
Why is there popcorn everywhere?
22:25.34
Andy Young
Yeah.
22:30.73
Andy Young
Yeah. I mean, you could set up quite an experience in there with a movie theater, you know, like a little screen you can put one to watch.
22:35.42
Tim
Oh yeah. A couple screens.
22:37.44
Andy Young
Yeah.
22:37.92
Tim
Right. You get whole theater experience.
22:41.66
Andy Young
Yeah, especially if it was just bluey episodes.
22:46.15
Tim
That’s awesome.
22:45.41
Andy Young
You know? Yeah, because they’re about 15 minutes, and so, you know, most rides would be about 15 minutes or more.
22:50.21
Tim
Great. Yeah. About 15. Yeah.
22:53.59
Andy Young
Yeah, you watch a whole episode, walk out, feel inspired, feel motivated, feel happy about life.
22:55.56
Tim
Mm hmm. Kids love it.
23:00.55
Tim
Right.
23:01.71
Andy Young
Yeah, so… Excuse me. Well, that wraps up this week’s episode. So if you want to learn more about A25 technologies, about how we provide managed service, whether we can help you with IT projects or web hosting, marketing, ah ah SEO, compliance, cybersecurity, we do a lot, don’t we?
23:21.52
Andy Young
So check out our websites.
23:21.74
Tim
Yeah, listen.
23:23.24
Andy Young
It’ll get you into more information.
23:25.36
Tim
And don’t forget, if you’re an IT decision maker, we’re here to be your trusted partner. Thanks for listening. We’ll see you next time.
23:33.50
Andy Young
Have a one.
